(from Gerald Hagler) 

Selfhealing Academy:
Dr. Lipton, you left the conventional scientific establishment many years ago and have since been addressing a broad public with the message that the view that genes control our health is wrong.

Bruce Lipton:
Yes, that's true, but let's start with some physics first.
Physics studies the mechanisms of the universe. Physics helps us understand how the universe works. That, of course, is a big topic. 

And so for centuries we have divided the world into 2 realms, the material and the energetic. This is the Newtonian way of thinking physics. 

This kind of physics comes to the conclusion that the material can be influenced only by matter and the energetic only by energy. So you could also say, in this worldview, matter and energy don't talk to each other. And since the human body consists of matter, the view has prevailed that the state of health of this body can also only be influenced with something material. So for example pharmaceutical medicines. And this of course causes us to be completely dependent on those who provide us with these drugs, who produce them. 

But the thing is this: the things changed fundamentally when in 1927 the quantum physics came on the scene. Because from this it can be concluded that there are no two worlds but only one and this is the world of energy. There is only energy! Matter, as we perceive it, is so to speak an illusion, which is produced by consciousness. And in this connection I like to mention Einstein's quotation which reads: "Our reality is an illusion, albeit a persistent one."

Selfhealing Academy:
But how did they come to this conclusion?

Bruce Lipton:
If one examines an atom, then one finds smaller parts, which move similarly as in a solar system. So an atom is composed of smaller particles, but if you now go deeper and look at what these smaller parts are composed of, i.e. electrons, protons and neutrons, you find that there is nothing physical to be found here anymore. There are no more still smaller particles. Instead one finds within these components of the atom something like nano tornadoes. Powerful energy fields which are in motion.

And what is the relevance of all this? Well, it brings us to the following realization: everything physical is composed of atoms, but the atoms themselves are composed of vibrating energy fields. Consequently, everything in the physical world is composed of energy fields. Everything you can see and attack and also, of course, our own body. 

The most important conclusion from this fact is: The material world around us is ultimately an illusion. Everything consists of vibrating energy fields, which appear solid to us. 

And now we come to the point: so if everything around us consists of vibrating energy fields, then these in turn can also be influenced by energy. 

Energy interacts with energy and this in a way destroys the Newtonian world view, which has been de facto replaced by that of quantum physics.

And now you may ask yourself: What relevance does this have for my life? Isn't all this basically just hocus-pocus presented by some crackpot scientist? Well, let me point out that these findings from quantum physics are absolutely scientifically sound. It is not hocus pocus. Because the results seem so unbelievable, countless experiments have been carried out in this regard and the same result has been reached again and again. 

So if you want to question and dissect any science, they don't pick quantum physics, because that's sometimes the best researched. (Laughs.)

But again, back to the practical relevance of it all: The short answer is this: Consciousness generates reality.

Max Planck, one of the founders of quantum physics said in 1927: the mind is the matrix for the whole reality. 

And quantum physics er Richard Conn Henry of John Hopkins University wrote a well-received article that ends with the sentence, "Our universe is not material, it is mental and spiritual."

Mind you, this article entitled "The Mental Universe" was published in NATURE, one of the most recognized scientific publications in the world. 

The energetic field, if you will, is therefore the sole causer and influencer of matter. Energy brings us forth and forms us. 

Selfhealing Academy:
So the summary would be when you change your consciousness and your thinking, you change the world, including your body? 

Bruce Lipton:
Yes! We always think: Well, who cares about our thoughts, they are locked up there in our head and nobody gets anything out of it.

But you know, if I attach wires to your scalp and do EEG measurements, then I can read your brain activity. But there is a newer device called magneto encephalogram and the measuring unit of this kind of device is not even attached to the body anymore, it's a few cm away from it, and yet I read out the brain activity. That shows us that you are sending out your thoughts, so to speak. 

So let this melt on your tongue: Your thoughts are not locked up in your head, they are sent out into an energetic field and this energetic field in turn produces our material reality. 

So the sentence from earlier is of the very highest importance: "Our consciousness creates the entire reality."

Selfhealing Academy:
But this does not work without resistance...

Bruce Lipton:
Right. When they buy a computer new from the store and boot it up at home, they can't do much with that computer yet, because it doesn't have any programs running on it yet.

And that's exactly how it is with the human brain. in the last third of pregnancy, the "computer" is fully formed. But it is not until the first seven years of life that the programs are, so to speak, played on. And this is done by the environment, by the surroundings in which the child grows up. This is the reason why the boundaries between imagination and reality often become blurred for children under 7.

You are in a theta state most of the time, which is the brain state where hypnosis is most effective. That is, those programs that govern the rest of our lives are, in a sense, downloaded by copying the behavior and beliefs of our caregivers and society as a whole.

So you could say we ourselves had nothing at all to do with the way we were programmed, we had no influence on it.

And the problem with that is this: at least 70% of these programs are limiting, belittling, and cause self-sabotage.

So you have to let that roll off your tongue: at the age of seven or eight, we are programmed in such a way that our inherent powers are already blocked for the most part.

The science of the last years has clearly shown us that there are 2 areas of consciousness, namely the so-called awake consciousness and the subconscious. The subconscious is not inhabited, so to speak, no one is at home here, here only the previously mentioned programs are unwound.

But waking consciousness is very much connected to what we call soul, source or spirit.

So the waking consciousness is creative, this is where all the creative power is, while the subconscious mind is programmed, so to speak.

The problem is the relationship of use between the two forms of consciousness. Because 95% of the day we operate from the subconscious and only 5% from the creative mind, so to speak, the creating consciousness.

And this is then the explanation why it is possible that people who are adopted into a family in which a certain type of cancer is common, also get this type of cancer, although they have completely different genes. It was only the negative programming that made them sick. That is why I always say: It is not the genes that control our lives, it is the programs!

Selfhealing Academy:
That is, so-called "unfavorable predisposition" does not exist at all?

Bruce Lipton:
Of course not. Nevertheless, the persistent belief that genes have a major influence on our lives, including our health, persists to this day.

The point is, however, that genes do not simply switch on and off by themselves. That we are not at the mercy of their seemingly random or predetermined activity. That we are therefore not victims of our origin, in this case our genetics. It is simply not true that we have no influence on it and that we are consequently victims of our gene pool.

There is a whole branch of science that has been dealing with exactly this for decades and it is called epigenetics. The term "epi" is already contained in this designation, which states that there is a superordinate instance. 

And what is this instance? Answer: Consciousness

Thank you Dr. Lipton for this interview!

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